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Lulu Miller is a former producer at Radiolab and a co-founder of Invisibilia. Her new book is Why Fish Don't Exist: A Story of Loss, Love, and the Hidden Order of Life. “I think almost every radio story I’ve ever done comes down to the question of me trying to ask a person how they get through this life thing. How they get through this breakup. How they get through being disabled in a family that's crushing them. How they get through having a head that's poisonous. Every story is just, Oh, what's your trick?” Thanks to Mailchimp, Literati, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @lmillernpr lutimestwo.com Miller's archive at NPR Invisibilia [04:57] Why Fish Don't Exist: A Story of Loss, Love, and the Hidden Order of Life (Simon & Schuster • 2020) [15:18] "The Reluctant Immortalist" (Invisibilia • April 2020) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Naomi Klein is a senior correspondent at The Intercept and the author of The Shock Doctrine and No Logo. Her most recent book is On Fire: The (Burning) Case for a Green New Deal. “I have no idea whether we will do this. All I know is there is a slim chance, a very slim chance, that we could make things a lot better than if we do nothing and just let it burn. The stakes of that are so high that I’m not going to spend my time trying to figure out whether our chances are good or not. I’m just gonna try to enlarge those chances.” Thanks to Mailchimp, Literati, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @NaomiAKlein naomiklein.org Klein on Longform [20:09] "The Problem With Hillary Clinton Isn’t Just Her Corporate Cash. It’s Her Corporate Worldview." (The Nation • April 2016) [23:46] On Fire: The (Burning) Case for a Green New Deal. (Naomi Klein • Simon & Schuster • 2019) [25:38] No Logo (Picador • 1999) [25:39] The Shock Doctrine (Picador • 2007) [25:40] This Changes Everything (Simon & Schuster • 201

Eva Holland is a freelance journalist and a correspondent for Outside. Her new book is Nerve: Adventures in the Science of Fear. “I'm less caught up in my freelance career anxieties every day that this goes on. Maybe I'll become a paramedic, who knows? Magazines I write for are already shutting down because of this. You can only freak out so much before you decide that if you end up having to find a new way to make a living, that's what you'll do.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @evaholland Holland's archive at Outside Magazine Holland on Longform [07:31] Nerve: Adventures in the Science of Fear (Eva Holland • The Experiment • 2020) [30:50] "No Sleep 'Till Fairbanks" (SB Nation • March 2013) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ed Yong is the author of I Contain Multitudes and a science writer at The Atlantic . His most recent article is "How the Pandemic Will End." “Normally when I write things that are about a pressing societal issue, those pieces feel like they’re about things that need to get solved in timeframes of, say, months or years. ... But now I’m writing pieces that are affecting people’s choices and lives, and hopefully the direction of the entire country, on an hourly basis. The changes I hope to see, I hope to see immediately. Like right now. And that does create a massive sense of urgency, a sense of pressing, incredibly high stakes. And it’s a burden.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @edyong209 edyong.me Yong on Longform [01:08] "How the Pandemic Will End" (The Atlantic • March 2020) [02:49] "The Next Plague Is Coming. Is America Ready?" (The Atlantic • July 2018) [28:21] "How a Pandemic Might Play Out Under Trump" (The Atlantic • Dec 2016) [39:33] Flash Forward Podcast [4

Charlie Warzel is a writer-at-large for The New York Times opinion page. “I’m relying on my morals more than I normally do, but less on my gut. The stakes are just so high.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @cwarzel Warzel's archive at The New York Times Longform Podcast #291: Charlie Warzel Warzel on Longform [05:08] "Please, Don’t Go Out to Brunch Today" (New York Times • March 2020) [10:52] "Please, Listen to Experts About the Coronavirus. Then Step Up." (New York Times • March 2020) [29:57] "They Went off the Grid. They Came Back to Coronavirus." (New York Times • March 2020) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Mooallem is a journalist, author, and host of The Walking Podcast. His latest book is This is Chance!: The Shaking of an All-American City, A Voice That Held It Together. “There is this impulse that we have, this very clearly documented impulse that people everywhere have, to help. It sounds tacky, but when the bottom drops out, when ordinary life is overturned and there’s this upheaval or this disruption—if it’s a natural disaster or even something like this, that there’s ... in the book I call it a ‘civic immune response.’ People do spontaneously help each other, they work together, they collaborate. This whole idea that society falls apart and everyone descends into madness and violence is just not true. And we know that. We have science that shows it.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @jmooallem jonmooallem.com Mooallem on Longform Longform Podcast #74: Jon Mooallem [08:29] This Is Chance!: The Shaking of an All-American City, A Voice That Held It Together (Ra

Jad Abumrad is the co-creator and host of Radiolab. His new podcast is Dolly Parton's America. “There’s a way in which, I think, it felt more honest to be more confused in our stories. So that’s where we went.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @JadAbumrad jadabumrad.com [03:27] "Patient Zero" (Radiolab • Nov 2011) [04:34] Dolly Parton's America [17:32] 9 to 5 (1980) [19:00] "Dixie Disappearance" (Dolly Parton's America • Dec 2017) [17:32] "My Tennessee Mountain Home" (1973) [33:10] More Perfect [33:19] "The Architect" (More Perfect • Dec 2017) [36:12] Democracy in America (Alexis de Tocqueville • 1835) [40:05] "Where Does the Term Redneck Come From?" (Slate • Dec 2019) [40:58] "Race" (Radiolab • Dec 2008) [42:10] "Yellow Rain" (Radiolab • Sep 2012) [1:05:47] "Playing God" (Radiolab • Aug 2016) [1:06:21] "Words" (Radiolab • Aug 2010) [1:07:31] "Musical Language" (Radiolab • Sep 2007) [1:08:07] "Lucy" (Radiolab • Feb 2010) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcast

Mara Hvistendahl is a freelance reporter and was a Pulitzer Prize finalist for her first book, Unnatural Selection. Her new book is The Scientist and the Spy: A True Story of China, the FBI, and Industrial Espionage. “In times of tension, Cold War historians believe that there’s this mirroring that goes on, that we start to behave like the enemy, and that that is the big risk. And I feel like that’s the moment we’re in now.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @MaraHvistendahl marahvistendahl.com Hvistendahl on Longform The Scientist and the Spy excerpt [00:45] The Scientist and the Spy: A True Story of China, the FBI, and Industrial Espionage (Mara Hvistendahl • Riverhead • 2020) [04:20] "Some People Just Smell Like Republicans" (Village Voice • Sep 2004) [09:36] "Rich Pickings" (Financial Times • Nov 2007) [10:42] Hvistendahl's archive at Science [15:20] "Half the Sky: How China’s Gender Imbalance Threatens Its Future" (Virginia Quarterly Review • Fall 2008) [15:20] "C

Hannah Dreier is a reporter at The Washington Post and the winner of the 2019 Pulitzer Prize for Feature Writing. “You can’t come up with a good story idea in the office. I’ve never had a good idea that I just came up with out of thin air. It always comes from being on the ground.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @hannahdreier hannahdreier.com Dreier on Longform [01:49] "Former MS-13 Member Who Secretly Helped Police is Deported" (ProPublica • Jan 2019) [02:05] "Trust and Consequences" (Washington Post • Jan 2020) [02:33] Dreier's archive at New York [02:35] Dreier on This American Life [02:37] "How a Crackdown on MS-13 Caught Up Innocent High School Students" (New York Times Magazine • Dec 2019) [07:52] "A Child's Scraped Knee a Life or Death Matter in Venezuela" (Associated Press • Oct 2016) [08:50] "Life on the Line in Venezuela as Economic Crisis Worsens" (Associated Press • July 2016) [15:55] "Venezuela's Newest Shortage: Breast Implants" (Hartford Courant • Sep

Ronan Farrow is a Pulitzer-winning investigative reporter for The New Yorker. He is the author of Catch and Kill: Lies, Spies, and a Conspiracy to Protect Predators and hosts The Catch and Kill Podcast. “It was the opposite of anything I would’ve expected, breaking a story like that. It wasn’t a moment of celebration. I was immensely relieved, and immensely grateful for the sources … and I was so grateful for those people at the New Yorker who had worked so hard. But it was a strange, numb time for me that ended, at the end of that day, with me bursting into tears.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @RonanFarrow Farrow's archive at The New Yorker The Catch and Kill Podcast [09:24] "How an Élite University Research Center Concealed its Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein" (New Yorker • Sep 2019) [09:56] "Les Moonves and CBS Face Allegations of Sexual Misconduct" (New Yorker • Jul 2018) [10:20] "From Aggressive Overtures to Sexual Assault: Harvey Weinstein's Accusers Tell

Joshua Yaffa is a Moscow correspondent for The New Yorker. His first book is Between Two Fires: Truth, Ambition, and Compromise in Putin's Russia. “Especially in a place like Russia, where there’s a lot of sensitivity around what people might tell you—when they do open up to you, there’s a lot of trust there. And you better not abuse it or mishandle it, because you could put people in danger. Just being a decent person, and demonstrating that decency, goes a long way.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @yaffaesque joshuayaffa.com [19:45] "The Search for Petr Khokhlov" (New York Times Magazine • Jan 2015) [22:45] Longform Podcast #339: Michael Lewis [26:15] "Ukraine's Unlikely President, Promising New Style of Politics, Gets a Tase of Trump's Swamp" (New Yorker • Oct 2019) [30:15] "The Double Sting" (New Yorker • Jul 2015) [37:45] "Russia's House of Shadows" (New Yorker • Oct 2017) [37:45] "A Village Doctor's Literary Calling" (New Yorker • May 2019) [38:00] Citizen K (

Ashley C. Ford is a writer and podcast host. Her memoir, Somebody's Daughter, is forthcoming from Flatiron Books. “For the first time I felt like I had so many more choices in my life than I originally thought I had. That was my first realization that I did not just have to react to the world, that I could be intentional in the world, and just curious about what came back to me.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @iSmashFizzle ashleycford.net Fortune Favors the Bold [5:00] "Roger Loves Chaz" (Roger Ebert • Sep 2012) [11:34] The Giver (Lois Lowry • Houghton Mifflin • 1993) [17:47] Ford's commencement speech at Ball State [26:09] Ford's archive at Buzzfeed [41:00] "Ashley C. Ford’s Debut Memoir ‘Somebody’s Daughter’ Finds Home at Flatiron" (Paperback Paris • 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Andrea Bernstein is a journalist and co-host of Trump, Inc., a podcast from WNYC and ProPublica. Her new book is American Oligarchs: The Kushners, the Trumps, and the Marriage of Money and Power. “Hope is an action. And I feel that writing and documenting is an action. When I stop doing those things, I will be hopeless. But because I am still doing those things, it means that I still have hope… so long as we continue to be actors in the world, we can be hopeful human beings.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @AndreaWNYC Trump, Inc. Bernstein's archive at ProPublica [04:07] Ilya Marritz on the "Nine Pillars of Bernstein" [11:12] Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election [pdf] [11:47] The Trump Card: Playing to Win in Work and Life (Ivanka Trump • Simon & Schuster • 2009) [14:31] American Oligarchs: The Kushners, the Trumps, and the Marriage of Money and Power (W.W. Norton • 2020) [19:09] City for Sale: Ed

Kevin Kelly is a writer and a founding executive editor of Wired Magazine. He is the author of What Technology Wants, Out of Control and The Inevitable: Understanding the Twelve Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future. “I always try to write about the future—and it became harder and harder because things would catch up so fast. If you read Out of Control now, I’ve heard that people say, ‘well, this is obvious.’ I have to tell you, it was dismissed as entirely pie-in-the-sky, wild-eyed craziness twenty-five years ago.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. kk.org @kevin2kelly [08:54] CoEvolution Quarterly [09:06] “Low-Rent Himalayas” (CoEvolution Quarterly • 1981) [pdf] [18:06] “Information as a Communicable Disease” (CoEvolution Quarterly • 1984) [pdf] [22:30] sci-hub.tw [28:28] Cool Tools: A Catalog of Possibilities (Cool Tools Lab • 2013) [31:31] Whole Earth Software Catalog and Review [48:08] Out of Control: The New Biology of Machines, Socia

Katherine Eban is an investigative journalist and contributing writer at Fortune Magazine. Her new book is Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom. “I am not known for my optimism. I think it’s hard to do this work and retain a sunny view of humankind. I hate to say that. On the other hand, I do believe there will always be whistleblowers. And it’s interesting to me that even in the darkest spaces, even when it looks like everything is arrayed against them, there are people who will say: ‘This just isn’t right, and I must do something.’ Which is kind of extraordinary.” Thanks to Mailchimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. katherineeban.com @KatherineEban [08:00] “Bellevue's Emergency” (New York Times Magazine • 1996) [08:42] “Corrections Officials See Medical Neglect of Rikers Prisoners” (Observer • 1998) [08:44] “Complaints Prompt Scrutiny of St. Barnabas Hospital” (Observer • 1998) [12:04] Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom (Ecco •

Cord Jefferson is a journalist turned television writer whose credits include Succession, The Good Place, and Watchmen. “I’m a fearful person. I’m afraid of a lot of things. I’m afraid of how people perceive me, I’m afraid of hurting myself, I’m afraid of heights. I’m afraid of a lot. Bravery does not come naturally to me. But the moments when I feel like I’ve done the best in my life and been the proudest of myself are when I’ve overcome that fear to do something that scares me.” Thanks to Mailchimp, Pitt Writers, and Squarespace for sponsoring this week's episode. @cordjefferson cordjefferson.tumblr.com Longform Podcast #61: Cord Jefferson Jefferson on Longform [01:55] “Video of Violent, Rioting Surfers Shows White Culture of Lawlessness” (Gawker • 2013) [02:02] “Cord Jefferson, Chris Hayes Ask What White Community Will Do About ‘White Criminal Culture’ (VIDEO)” (HuffPost • 2013) [10:05] “Manti Te'o's Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football S

Jerry Saltz is a Pulitzer-winning art critic for New York. “To this day I wake up early and I have to get to my desk to write almost immediately. I mean fast. Before the demons get me. I got to get writing. And once I’ve written almost anything, I’ll pretty much write all day, I don’t leave my desk, I have no other life. I’m not part of the world except when I go to see shows.” Thanks to MailChimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @jerrysaltz Saltz on Instagram Saltz on Longform Saltz's archive at New York Magazine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Liana Finck, a cartoonist and illustrator, contributes to The New Yorker and is the author of Excuse Me and Passing for Human. "I was drawing since I was 10 months old. My mom had left this vibrant community of architects and art people to live in this idyllic country setting with my dad, and she poured all of her art feelings into me. She really praised me for being this baby genius, which I may or may not have been. But I grew up thinking I was an amazing artist. There weren’t any other artists around besides my mom, so I didn’t have anything to compare it to. There were no art classes around. … I was so shy, so I was just always drawing and making things." Thanks to MailChimp and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @lianafinck Finck's archive at The New Yorker Finck on Instagram Passing for Human: A Graphic Memoir (Random House • 2018) Excuse Me: Cartoons, Complaints, and Notes to Self (Random House • 2019) [10:00] "What I Miss: A List" (Catapult • Apr 2018) [40:00] Very Sem

Mina Kimes is a senior writer at ESPN and the host of the podcast ESPN Daily. “What I’ve found, and this is something I did not know would be the case going into it, is that sports stories—and, at the risk of sounding a bit self-important, maybe someone like me writing sports stories or talking about it in particular—can have an impact in other ways that have revealed themselves to me over time.” Thanks to Mailchimp, Pitt Writers, and Native Deodorant for sponsoring this week's episode. @minakimes minakimes.tumblr.com Kimes on Longform Longform Podcast #12: Mina Kimes ESPN Daily Podcast [05:37] “Me, My Father, and Russell Wilson: Why This Seahawks Season Makes Me Unspeakably Happy” (Slate • 2014) [10:46] “Aly Raisman Takes the Floor” (ESPN • 2018) [10:55] “Drew Brees Has a Dream He'd Like to Sell You” (ESPN • 2016) [12:11] ESPN's Around the Horn [12:12] ESPN's Highly Questionable [20:48] “How Darrelle Revis Became the NFL's Savviest Negotiator” (ESPN • 2015) [24:18] “The Unkillable

Andy Greenberg is a senior writer for Wired. His new book is Sandworm. “I kind of knew I was never going to get access to Sandworm, which is the title of the book - so it was all about drawing a picture around this invisible monster.” Thanks to Mailchimp, Pitt Writers, and Family Ghosts for sponsoring this week's episode. @a_greenberg Greenberg's archive at Wired [03:22] Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers (Doubleday • 2019) [06:21] Dune (Chilton Books • 1965) [07:03] “How an Entire Nation Became Russia's Test Lab for Cyberwar” (Wired • 2017) [33:50]Greenberg's archive at Forbes [37:09]“Is Bitcoin's Creator this Unknown Australian Genius? Probably Not (Updated)” (Wired • 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices