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The Rogues talk to Sam Livingston-Gray and Glenn Vanderburg about conceptualizing code. Special Guests: Glenn Vanderburg and Sam Livingston-Gray. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/ruby-rogues--6102073/support.